Interview with Shaun Willcock

Interviewer: “Is it true that South Africa has over 150 affirmative action type laws that discriminate against whites?”

Willcock: “They certainly have them. The only difference between South Africa and the United States on this would be that in South Africa affirmative action advances the majority, not the minority — because the whites are the minority. Depending on the size of your business you are already required to have around 75 percent black employment. And of course it is difficult, because even 30 years after apartheid ended, the majority of black people do not yet have the qualifications for those jobs — not because they cannot do them but because they have not yet reached that standard of education.”

Interviewer: “Is it true that Nelson Mandela's party sabotaged education for the blacks in South Africa?”

Willcock: “In 1976 we had riots across the country where black school children refused to learn in Afrikaans and began burning schools. The liberation slogan was: Liberation now, education later. An entire generation of black young people lost the opportunity for any education at all at high school level and beyond. Those same young men are now middle-aged and cannot find work that pays any kind of decent wage. We are looking at close to 40 percent unemployment or higher in the country. The Marxists did this deliberately — we should have no doubt about it. Where they cannot control education they will destroy it, to keep people ignorant and make them cannon fodder for the revolution.”

Interviewer: “What about the expropriation of white-owned farms without compensation?”

Willcock: “It is government policy. The ANC wants to entirely expropriate land and make it state-owned — as all Communists like to do. And it applies not just to Farmers but to any land. If they decide that your house is in a strategically important place they can take that too. The commercial Farmers — around 90 percent of whom are white South Africans — face the highest farm murder rate in the world outside of a war context. We are having around 27,000 murders a year in a country of around 50 million people. If they take all the farms, they will hand them to the elites in government, the farms will go to rack and ruin as happened in Rhodesia, and you could be looking at mass starvation in this country.”

Interviewer: “Dr. Fauci is Jesuit-educated. Redfield at the CDC was Jesuit-educated. Joe Biden attends a Jesuit church. Was COVID-19 a modern-day Gunpowder Plot?”

Willcock: “I think absolutely that is correct. I wrote a book on the whole COVID issue called The Year They Shut Down the World, which was written exactly about the Jesuit influence in that pandemic. I absolutely agree that they were involved — along with other one-world groups, usually connected to them in some way. COVID did wonders for them. It changed the world — and that is what they wanted. It was a giant leap forward for their plans.”

Interviewer: “Do you think the Jesuits support depopulation of the world?”

Willcock: “I think they do, but I am not sure how far they intend to go with it or by exactly what means. I think a lot of these one-world groups have certain issues where they converge and are in agreement and then they have their own separate agendas. How far the Jesuits specifically are committed to a depopulation programme I cannot say with certainty at this stage.”

Interviewer: “Can you give a brief overview of the Jesuit order — why they were founded and what their overall purpose is?”

Willcock: “They were officially founded in 1540 by a Spanish nobleman named Ignatius Loyola, in the years after the Protestant Reformation had begun. Originally their purpose was not to be under the papacy but to operate as a secret society — though they obtained the Pope's blessing when it suited their plans. As a result they became what many have called the Stormtroopers of the Roman papacy. Other religious orders within Rome — the Dominicans, the Franciscans — have their purposes, but the Jesuits had two supreme goals: the destruction of Protestantism and the ruling of the world. With the coming of Pope Francis I think they took a major leap forward with both.”

Interviewer: “Can you explain the title 'the Black Pope' for the Jesuit General?”

Willcock: “The Jesuit General is not a black man — the word black here is used as in the Black Mass, meaning the dark arts, the shadow power. He is the shadow Pope, the real power behind the throne. Pretty much since the Jesuits came into being very few Popes if any have ever been elected without the blessing of the Jesuit order — though Francis is the first openly Jesuit Pope. If the white Pope tried too hard to go his own way he would often be, as the Vatican historian Avro Manhattan used to say, given an accelerated demise. Pope John Paul I — we can say with certainty — was murdered. The evidence is overwhelming, notwithstanding all the Vatican's denials.”

Interviewer: “Can you talk about the Jesuits' methods of secrecy?”

Willcock: “They do not have to appear as a priest with a Jesuit collar, dressed in black. Depending on their task they can appear in all kinds of disguises — in banking and commerce, in politics, in newspapers and media, and in particular infiltrating Protestant denominations and churches. From the very beginning they have infiltrated Bible colleges, seminaries, universities, and pulpits, moving denominations away from biblical truth — which is exactly what we see in the world today. And they were abolished not only from Protestant countries but from Roman Catholic ones as well, because the European nations saw clearly what this order was doing. Even the Pope who abolished them admitted he had essentially signed his own death warrant — and sure enough, he died a few months later.”

Interviewer: “Do you believe the Jesuits were behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln?”

Willcock: “The evidence is overwhelming. Most people who know anything about it will know it from Charles Chiniquy's book Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, but he was not the only one — there were others who studied the issue and came to the same conclusion. You can go back earlier than the assassination and find Lincoln himself saying this was what he feared, and giving his reasons. They supported the South in the Civil War, supported slavery, and Lincoln was probably on their radar for more than one reason — including his friendship with Chiniquy and his own moral integrity.”

Interviewer: “What do you think is the Jesuits' ultimate objective with the ecumenical movement — the blending of all religions?”

Willcock: “I think the ultimate objective is to do in the religious realm what they are doing on the political side: world control. In the modern world it is not going to be enough to simply push the idea that Rome is the only truth. Instead they use the interfaith approach. I do not think they are trying to fully merge all religions into one because the differences are too great — but at least to have some kind of federal situation where the Pope is at the top and the leaders of the other religions are in a subservient position to that. They want to amalgamate them all, as far as can be achieved, still with the Pope of Rome in charge.”

Interviewer: “Is Pope Francis a full-blown Socialist Communist?”

Willcock: “Yes, I think he fully is that — though he will not say it openly. On political and economic matters he is a full-blown Socialist Communist. But being a Jesuit, he will be whatever is suitable to the times and can change tomorrow if he sees the need to — that is why you cannot pin him down. That is why even Roman Catholics themselves are so confused by his utterances. Out of one side of his mouth he says something that sounds like he is against the LGBT movement; out of the other side a few days later he says something clearly supportive of it. He is doing that on purpose. It is very jesuitical — plausible deniability.”

Interviewer: “Where do you think all of this fits in prophetically?”

Willcock: “I believe we are very close to the end. The destruction of the papal system has not yet taken place but I think it is coming in the near future, and following shortly after that the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. Looking at the prophecies of Revelation and where we are in those prophecies — I am actually writing a multi-volume commentary on Revelation which is nearly finished — we are right near the end. There is not much time left, prophetically speaking.”

Interviewer: “What would your counsel be to someone who is not a true believer but is waking up to what is happening in the world?”

Willcock: “The first thing I would tell them is to make sure that their priorities are straight. These things are very important while we live on this earth, but in eternity none of this will matter — and so the most important matter is: are you a child of God by faith in Jesus Christ? Make your calling and election sure, as Peter says in 2 Peter 1. The 70 or 80 years we have on this earth are soon over, and then there is eternity. Beyond that, live as salt and light in the world — do what you can to make it a more decent and moral place — but always keeping in mind that we are strangers and pilgrims in this world, and that this world is not our home. Nothing is as important as the state of your soul. What shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.”